Hello, so I was admitted to San Diego State University in December under pre-liberal studies. I have a very tough courseload right now and I am concerned about Grades. I am certain I am going to earn 2 C’s this semester in Physics and Web Design. I don’t have senioritis but I have bad teachers in these classes and they can’t teach so my …College Confidential Forums What are my chances on transferring to SDSU? Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. Sdfangirl15 March 24, 2019, 6:35pm 1. I'm currently in community college in Orange County my current GPA is a 2.45GPA I do have a few more classes I need to take like bio, college math ...Two weeks ago it was Equifax; now another crucial US financial institution has been breached. Hackers broke into the systems of the top US securities regulator last year, and may h...College Confidential Forums ... San Diego State University. donnie9 June 28, 2016, 12:52pm #1. Hello Has anyone heard back from the appeals committee for fall 2016 decisions? My appeal was received by SDSU on April 12th, I was given 3 different deadlines that they did not honor, and I'm still waiting for an answer.Mar 27, 2019 · class-2024, san-diego-state-university. csulbguru March 27, 2019, 7:55pm 1. I’m starting an SDSU Class of 2024 application thread for you guys!! Please feel free to post any questions or comments below and good luck on your journey! amsunshine October 2, 2019, 9:09pm 2. Very exciting – dd just completed her CSU apps for SDSU and SLO last night.Dec 29, 2022 · I am starting an SDSU discussion/Stats thread since SDSU has in the past offered Early admission decisions to top students in Mid-December. This includes High stat/Honors college invitees, OOS and International students. …I am starting an SDSU discussion/Stats thread since SDSU has in the past offered Early admission decisions to top students in Mid-December. This includes High stat/Honors college invitees, OOS and International students. …Latest University of California - Irvine topics - College Confidential Forums. Thread. Replies. Views. Activity. UC Irvine Freshman Class of 2028 Waitlist/Appeal Discussion. waitlist. March Decisions will be posting soon so I have started the Waitlist/Appeal discussion. 2023 Timeline: April 19, 2023 few waitlist admits.Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees ... film/prefilm major UWGPA 3.9 WTGPA for CSU 4.17 AP classes 5 - taking 4 this year CA- SD - north of 56. College Confidential Forums San Diego State Freshman Class of 2028 Official Discussion Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z.College Confidential Forums SDSU Appeal 2020. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2024, san-diego-state-university. soccersoccer12 April 9, 2020, 6:57pm 1. Has anyone else sent an appeal in to SDSU admissions office for 2020? How do we know if they received our appeal?Hi Everyone! I am looking to transfer from Cal State Northridge to San Diego State Univeristy! I am a Computer Science major. I already have more than 60 credits as a sophomore and upon transfer I will have close to 80. I am taking classes in math and computer science that are way past the requirements needed to transfer! I will have a 3.8 GPA upon transfer and applying. It is my second year ...11643. April 10, 2024. Cal Poly SLO Class of 2028 Freshman Discussion Thread. Starting this class discussion if any applicants have specific questions about Cal Poly SLO and their application process. Here are some links about SLO's selection criteria and application resources: https://www.calpol…. 1729.There are lots of things your daycare doesn't want you to know. Find out what to look for when choosing a daycare provider. Advertisement It could be like a page out of "Daycare Co...Plus SDSU is way closer to fun things for college students. San Diego proper is a town with concerts, arts, museums, food, and the beach, which is a great place to socialize for four years on a budget. Riverside is inland and I cannot speak to the vibe there, but there is a lot of youth in San Diego so a college student will have fun.Gumbymom April 23, 2018, 10:07pm 3. Double majors are possible if you have a large overlap of classes between the two majors but I think it will be pretty difficult unless you take summer session every year to make the 4 year graduation target. My son at SDSU was thinking of doing a CS major with a Business minor and was still not able to fit ...College Confidential Forums SDSU scholarships? Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. mymyatwaterloo December 17, 2019, 4:22am 1. I just got accepted into the school today, I was wondering what scholarships, merit or essay-based should I pursue? Are there any I might be getting in the future that ...College Confidential Forums SDSU and the Introvert. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. patertrium December 25, 2018, 2:47am #1. S3 just got admitted to SDSU and his major is stats/data science. Looking at a thread on another discussion board I saw lots of sentiments to the effect of "if you ...Applying to college for the Fall of 2023? Connect with future members of the Class of 2027 to ask questions, swap stats, share admissions updates and results. See more on College Confidential.Is anybody else having trouble paying the 400 dollars for admission (intent) for San Diego State University. Not in terms of being able to afford it but the website says unable to complete payment. ... College Confidential Forums SDSU Admission 400 dollar amount Website will not let you pay. As of 2/3/2023. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San ...Hi, Im Samantha a rising senior in high school. I wanted to see if anyone could help me out. My top three choices of to get a bsn from is ucla, uc irvine, and sdsu because i really prefer direct admission from freshman year. Can anyone tell me if I have any chance of getting in? My gpa weighted is a 4.2 and 4.3, and my gpa unweighted is a 3.8 or 3.9. I haven't take my SAT but with my ...The College confidential community is small and many admitted students do not post on any social media sites. Some early in-state admits posted here but I have seen many more on Reddit and Facebook. ... San Diego State Freshman Class of 2028 Official Discussion Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. Gumbymom January ...We looked at these schools and chose SDSU over the others. SDSU’s acceptance rate is in the 30’s, so it’s not easy to get admitted. Merced accepts almost every applicant and Riverside had a 68% acceptance rate this past year, and for whatever reason is still looked at by CA students as the last resort because they didn’t get into the other UC’s.College Confidential Forums UCSD vs SDSU. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. kitten1993 July 22, 2015, 10:03am 1. Hi, so I'm new to this place and I just wanted some advice and input from others about UCSD and SDSU. I'm going to be living in San Diego soon and I want to transfer to either UCSD or SDSU. ...Hope this helps! Good luck to everyone. AztecEddy April 17, 2020, 11:15pm 7. My S sent his appeal March 31 and was informed today (April 17) that his appeal has been forwarded to the admissions committee. soccersoccer12 April 18, 2020, 5:44pm 8. I was accepted this morning at 12:56 a.m!!!San Diego State University. class-2026, regular-decision, san-diego-state-university, officia. Misa1 December 22, 2021, 3:27am ... Also, College Confidential is far from representing the overall competitiveness and academic stats of the applicant pool. As I stated above, due to the extended CSU application deadline, some early January ...An employer breach of confidentiality happens when an employer reveals information about an employee to unauthorized people. For example, an employer breach of confidentiality occu...Gumbymom August 16, 2020, 12:35am 11. @SDSUHopefulClassof2025: Only a few Cal states consider alternate majors and SDSU is not one of these CSU’s. Cal Poly Pomona, San Jose state and rarely Cal Poly SLO will consider alternate majors. In general, all Cal states admit by major so usually an alternate major needs to be a non-impacted major as ...College Confidential Forums San Diego State University Class of 2027 Official Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. ... Waitlisted: UCSD, San Diego State University Rejected: UCLA, University of Washington (Seattle) 1 Like. dbhsstudent March 18, 2023, 7:24am 945. What were her stats? ...College Confidential Forums SDSU Class of 2022 Applicant Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. leahzilberman December 12, 2017, 4:48am 1. I haven’t ... Will SDSU take that into account? Gumbymom December 17, 2017, 1:20am 13. @ ...College Confidential Forums SDSU Appeals 2022. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. Gabriela_Cooper March 20, 2022, 10:08pm 1. Hi! I just got denied from SDSU and applied to major in Psychology I had a 3.88GPA. ... 'Your admission appeal request has been received by San Diego State University. In order for your appeal to ...Hi Everyone! I am looking to transfer from Cal State Northridge to San Diego State Univeristy! I am a Computer Science major. I already have more than 60 credits as a sophomore and upon transfer I will have close to 80. I am taking classes in math and computer science that are way past the requirements needed to transfer! I will have a 3.8 GPA upon transfer and applying. It is my second year ...Apr 30, 2020 · UCR versus SDSU. College Search & Selection. california-colleges. Slayberryy April 30, 2020, 2:08am 1. Hi all! I finished my second year of CC and I have been accepted into UCR, UCSC, and SDSU as of right now (with possibility of Loyola and Chapman). I applied as a business admin major and due to COVID19 I’m unable to visit campuses.Colleges and Universities A-Z San Diego State University. KPurcell February 25, 2015, 7:05am 1. I am currently a senior in high school and I am most likely going to SDSU next year. I have been accepted in to the honors college, but I don't really know much about it except what is on the website. I was hoping to get some reviews from current ...College Confidential Forums San Diego State University Class of 2027 Official Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. Twins2023 January 24, 2023, 6:32pm 81. Confused… are you in state or OOS for the application? ...ChrisDea June 9, 2020, 3:24am 1. Looking to see if anyone recently been given admission off the waitlist at SDSU. bgood2every1 June 14, 2020, 2:58am 2. My daughter got admitted off the waitlist yesterday, 6/12. She ended up declining because she got accepted to UCSB off of an appeal 2 weeks ago. ItIsHappening June 17, 2020, 9:50pm 3.Just please be aware that SDSU wants your out of state money. With 25%+ being accepted out of state there are many parents in the SDSU parent FB page that are complaining and/or really struggling to pay for college. It is pretty shocking to see parents allowing their kids to accept admission and then have buyers remorse later.College Confidential Forums SDSU Admissions Class of 2026. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2026, regular-decision, san-diego-state-university, officia. shmom41 January 22, 2022, 12:55am ... Here is the link to SDSU admission data for 2021-2022. It contains average GPA data for admitted students.SDSU Admissions Class of 2026 - San Diego State University - College Confidential Forums. Colleges and Universities A-Z San Diego State University. class-2026, regular-decision, san-diego-state-university, officia. Southoftheriver October 2, 2021, 7:06pm 1. DD22 looking to complete her application to SDSU this weekend!College Confidential Forums SDSU nursing. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. kookieeejar March 30, 2019, 6:36am 1. does anyone know what are the stats for …College Confidential Forums SDSU Early Admission Decisions? Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. hemingways December 18, 2017, 3:40am 3 @Gumbymom thank you! Do you happen to also know what kind of stats these applicants would have? ... Hey everyone, I received a San Diego State University acceptance a few days ago and I ...@hemingways I have twin OOS cousins, one accepted on Dec 18 and the other hasn't heard. The one accepted has an EI of 4700 (4.1 GPA and 1420 SAT) Chem major. Her brother, who hasn't heard, has an EI of 4300 Aerospace Engineering major. His GPA is only 3.4 but he has a 1540 SAT.Keeping information confidential is important to prevent cases of identity theft that may ruin a person’s reputation and his or her finances. A person should only share information...College Confidential Forums SDSU Admissions Class of 2026. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2026, regular-decision, san-diego-state-university, officia. shmom41 January 22, 2022, 12:55am ... Here is the link to SDSU admission data for 2021-2022. It contains average GPA data for admitted students.College Confidential Forums Help me with a game plan! (narrowing down our list of potential colleges, mostly SLAC) [CA resident, 3.7 GPA] ... Interestingly, that is almost the exact same yield percentage as SDSU, just under 22%. But St. Olaf did not have to reject 47,000 applicants to get there. I suspect, ...Hello, I really need advice. My daughter screwed up her college list and only applied to safeties and reaches (maybe two targets.) My daughter got into all her safeties - SDSU, CSULB, U Oregon, ASU, and U Colorado Boulder. We are very thankful for that! She was denied or waitlisted at all the other schools she applied to (nine or ten.) Lots of tears. She is leaning toward SDSU because she ...I have a sophomore at SDSU currently, he was accepted at CalPoly as well as many UCs. His heart was at UCSD and he was waitlisted and did not get in as that year there were zero admits from the waitlist. He is Mechanical Engineer major. Any way he went to SDSU, truly I think because he was still in San Diego and he planned on transferring.Mar 19, 2024 · I am starting an SDSU discussion since the CSU application has opened with a submission deadline of November 30th. Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO…Fall 2019 Final Deadline (FOR HIGH SCHOOL AND CURRENT SDSU STUDENTS): March 30, 2019. After January 15, applications will be accepted and evaluated on a space-available basis until 11:59pm on March 30. A limited number of applications received after January 15 will be admitted into the Weber Honors College.I am starting an SDSU discussion since the CSU application has opened with a submission deadline of November 30th. Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO…College Confidential Forums SDSU Transfer Applicant Missing Lower Division Requirements. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. Socal272022 January 9, 2020, 7:33am 1. Hi, I am a student at Grossmont Community College and submitted an application for Fall 2020 at SDSU. ...College Confidential Forums SDSU Class of 2024 Application Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2024, san-diego-state-university. firstgen29 March 3, 2020, 7:05am 364. Login voluntarily. Heyyy779 March 3, 2020, 7:09am 365. Hey guys I have a quick question! ...Based on a couple of posts, yes some rejections have been sent. Someone at my daughter’s school got rejected through the portal 2 days ago. Unsure of stats, major, etc. though! my daughters friend got rejected for nursing program. don’t know any other details I heard about some rejections on other sites, but not many. The denials last year …College Confidential Forums ... San Diego State University. My3SonsSD January 20, 2024, 4:05pm 1. As many of you probably know, SDSU is facing a faculty strike during the week of January 22nd. Since 2020, faculty have received raises totaling 3% while the CPI is up 18%. In the week leading up to the strike, the following message was posted on ...College Confidential Forums When do SDSU decisions come out? Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. CSUdream December 7, 2018, 3:37pm 3. Usually decisions come out mid-December for some OOS students, and high stats in-state students. Last year many did not come out until April, although I think ...A couple of 3 decades ago, I spent a few years at CU Boulder before transferring & finishing my undergrad at SDSU business (accounting). I like both schools, but for me personally, I give the nod to CU in most categories. I find Boulder (and the hill) to be the textbook definition of a college town. Not sure what the tuition economics look like in …College Confidential Forums SDSU Class of 2024 Application Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2024, san-diego-state-university. BellyFlop March 26, 2020, 3:34am 612. Sorry if I shouldn't be posting my question here. My D was accepted at SDSU for the Fall but is unsure she wants to leave given COVID-19 (we ...@nocal1:. Not to derail this thread but below is a description of a Forum Champion and the UC forum alone keeps me pretty busy. Since I had one son, a current niece and possibly another niece that are/were Aztecs, I like to pay if forward and try to help as many posters through the process.College Confidential Forums ... San Diego State University. class-2024, san-diego-state-university. Snoopdoggydogg November 14, 2019, ...Melbourne29 October 5, 2016, 3:55am 1. Hey guys, I'm a Journalism student from Melbourne, Australia and I'll be doing a semester exchange in America in Fall 2017. I'm trying to decide between San Diego State University or University of Maryland. I know that UMD is known to be academically stronger and a better Journalism school, but as it ...Plus SDSU is way closer to fun things for college students. San Diego proper is a town with concerts, arts, museums, food, and the beach, which is a great place to socialize for four years on a budget. Riverside is inland and I cannot speak to the vibe there, but there is a lot of youth in San Diego so a college student will have fun.College Confidential Forums San Diego State Freshman Class of 2028 Official Discussion Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. Gumbymom January 7, 2024, 2:53am 87. Admitted Students Day on April 13, 2024. See link for ...Hey all, I was wondering if I could have some advice on whether or not to get my hopes up applying to San Diego State. My GPA is a 3.75 with an 1150 SAT. ... College Confidential Forums SDSU Admissions. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. GMartinez10 November 9, 2019, 4:26am 1. Hey all, I was ...My son got off the SDSU waitlist yesterday for Physics. He released the spot right away to hopefully get an open spot to someone else asap. He was waitlisted at 4 schools and understands how it feels to be waiting! (he’s happily now committed to one of those schools).College Confidential Forums SDSU Class of 2024 Application Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. class-2024, san-diego-state-university. khgh2020 March 2, 2020, 7:07pm 321. Still pending here. Does anyone know if they release them all at the same time so if it is still pending this morning it means rejection?Co-ops at SDSU (Engineering) Colleges and Universities A-Z San Diego State University. VeniceQueen March 8, 2017, 1:16am 1. Hi, Is having co-ops normal at SDSU? I got accepted to MechE and I would like to know if it’s a possibility because it’s absolutely something I would like to do. Also, would going to SDSU put me at any …Gumbymom August 16, 2020, 12:35am 11. @SDSUHopefulClassof2025: Only a few Cal states consider alternate majors and SDSU is not one of these CSU’s. Cal Poly Pomona, San Jose state and rarely Cal Poly SLO will consider alternate majors. In general, all Cal states admit by major so usually an alternate major needs to be a non-impacted major as ...Adam McCann, WalletHub Financial WriterOct 17, 2022 In a fierce global economy, a college degree can help secure employment and keep you ahead of the competition. And though succes...Plus SDSU is way closer to fun things for college students. San Diego proper is a town with concerts, arts, museums, food, and the beach, which is a great place to socialize for four years on a budget. Riverside is inland and I cannot speak to the vibe there, but there is a lot of youth in San Diego so a college student will have fun.I am starting an SDSU discussion since the CSU application has opened with a submission deadline of November 30th. Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO…College confidential forum has ppl posting waitlists today. Haven’t received a decision yet either. 23K subscribers in the SDSU community. Community for San Diego State …I am starting an SDSU discussion since the CSU application has opened with a submission deadline of November 30th. Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO…CSUdream December 7, 2018, 3:37pm 3. Usually decisions come out mid-December for some OOS students, and high stats in-state students. Last year many did not come out until April, although I think that was due to glitches in the new app…don’t quote me on that though. Good luck!Join the discussion on SDSU admissions, campus life, majors, housing, and more. Find answers to your questions, share your experiences, and get tips from other students and alumni.College Confidential Forums SDSU sports. Colleges and Universities A-Z. San Diego State University. rzajr March 13, 2007, 1:06am 1 <p>How are the sports at SDSU. Like is going to bball games crazy and a lot of people or is it just dead. I know they have a good team and I played a lot of basketball in my life and still love the game even if im ...<p>I’m one of those who decided to do the community college thing and spend my first two years of college in community college. I plan to apply to transfer to SDSU in two years and I want to major in Art(not sure which emphasis yet) and Japanese. I plan to complete the prerequisites for both majors in my local community college, including all my general eds. </p> <p>The thing is that I’ve ...Our Northeast public high school sent EIGHT kids there this year! Nuts! Many are applying this year for the fall. It is def rising in popularity. My DH is from CA and a Cal grad and cannot get over the “old school view of SDSU” as accepting all who apply and being a huge party school. Times have def changed. He was shocked when he saw the In state acceptance rate was like 39% last year ...2022 Acceptance Rate for San Diego State University. It is moderately difficult to get into SDSU. In 2022, SDSU accepted 39% of applicants. Out of 77,250 applications received in 2022, 30,331 students were offered admission. San Diego State University Admissions Facts At-A-Glance. Overall Acceptance Rate. 39%.<p>I’d really appreciate if you could help me make the right decision. Here’s my situation:</p> <p>I was accepted into 5 schools and I’ve currently narrowed down my options to either SDSU or community college (my original goal was the UC schools but I was denied admission, so I’ve been urged to go to community college - this way I can …Last year SDSU early acceptances came out Dec 14th. Since SDSU has gotten a record # of applicants this year again, I am sure they should be posting soon. The early acceptances are High stat/Honors college invitees and OOS High stat applicants. Majority of the decisions will be in late February through March.24K subscribers in the SDSU community. Community for San Diego State University students, alumnus, faculty, parents/families and friends of ... College confidential forum has ppl posting waitlists today. Haven’t received a decision yet either Reply replyOur Northeast public high school sent EIGHT kids there this year! Nuts! Many are applying this year for the fall. It is def rising in popularity. My DH is from CA and a Cal grad and cannot get over the “old school view of SDSU” as accepting all who apply and being a huge party school. Times have def changed. He was shocked when he saw the In state acceptance rate was like 39% last year ...Topics tagged san-diego-state-university. College Confidential Forums san-diego-state-university. Thread Replies Views Activity; Female Junior, CA Resident, [civil, environmental, mechanical] Engineering with a (expected) 3.68 UW (Updated version!) [3.91 recalculated for UC]Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, ... 36 posts were merged into an existing topic: School options since SDSU admission may not be in the cards? College Confidential Forums San Diego State Freshman Class of 2028 Official Discussion Thread. Colleges and Universities A-Z.Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO… @aunt_bea D24 is a local we live very close to SDSU, she followed a strict coursework in high school locally too, weighted GPA of 4.1 and great extracurricular, she just got waitlisted.In today’s digital age, protecting sensitive information is more important than ever. Whether you are a small business owner or an individual, ensuring that your confidential docum...Apr 30, 2020 · UCR versus SDSU. College Search & Selection. california-colleges. Slayberryy April 30, 2020, 2:08am 1. Hi all! I finished my second year of CC and I have been accepted into UCR, UCSC, and SDSU as of right now (with possibility of Loyola and Chapman). I applied as a business admin major and due to COVID19 I’m unable to visit campuses.Ok, so today I got my acceptance letter to SDSU, should've been an exciting moment... Yet my mom had already opened it and just handed it to me. She didn't congradulate me because she's afraid of the cost. ... College Confidential Forums SDSU acceptance, but bad response. College Admissions. andrea3k6 March 6, 2006, 9:40pm #1 <p>Ok, so today I ...WayOutWestMom April 16, 2023, 9:11pm 3. All pre med classes are going to be difficult without any regard to what college you attend because: 1) the material is complex and deep; and 2) there is lots of competition for those A grades premeds need to have a strong GPA to support a med school application. So the difficulty of classes at SDSU is ...I just graduated 2 days ago and today I received a letter from SDSU saying that I am rescinded because of that "D" grade. What can I do to be reinstated????? PLEASE HELP! College Confidential Forums Rescinded from SDSU. College Admissions. pianolover24 June 16, 2013, 1:38pm #1 <p>In my senior year I was in Pre-Calculus and received a D, by ...Mar 18, 2024 · Historically SDSU has offered an Early admission decision for some High stat/Honors college invitees, OO… May I remind poster’s that this is the SDSU discussion thread and if you want to discuss alternate school options and give recommendations, then a new discussion thread should be started.. Reasons for SDSU Love: Location and wonderful WinZip is a utility for managing .zip files in Window College Confidential Forums ... San Diego State University. san-diego-state-university. Gumbymom December 1, 2021, 11:03pm 1. I am starting a new STATS ONLY thread since SDSU has in the past offered Early admission decisions to top students in Mid-December. This includes High stat/Honors college invitees, OOS and International students. Most of the parties are affiliated with SDSU Admissions Class of 2026 - San Diego State University - College Confidential Forums. Colleges and Universities A-Z San Diego State University. class-2026, regular-decision, san-diego-state-university, officia. Southoftheriver October 2, 2021, 7:06pm 1. DD22 looking to complete her application to SDSU this weekend!According to the SDSU Nursing website, you need a minimum B in AP Biology. Here is the information: Minimum Admission Requirements Minimum GPA of 3.0 in A - G coursework Minimum grades of B in Intermediate Algebra, Biology, and Chemistry with lab courses. If AP or IB level courses were taken in these areas, applicants must have earned a minimum grade of B. SAT Critical Reading and ... College Confidential Forums San Diego State Freshman Cl...
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