The ages were confirmed by Christine Thompson (who did PR for Fresh TV at the time) to be: Owen & Noah are both 19. Geoff is also 19 while Brody is 17. Both Leonard & Tammy are 16. Both Carrie & Devin are 18. Stephanie is 21 while Ryan is 22. Both Mary & Ellody are 19. Emma is 21 & Kitty is 18. Dwayne Sr. is 39 while Jr is 13.Gwen, labeled The Loner, was a camper on Total Drama Island as a member of the Perfect Porcupines. She did not make Total Drama Action or Total Drama World Tour when she refused to compete that long just to be voted off. She did return for Total Drama Underdogs as a member of the Loser Leeches. She has finished her time on Total Drama. Gwen dislikes her whole team. She argues, fights, and ...Gwen is one of the main characters in the Total Drama franchise. She is one of the two arch-nemeses of Heather (while the other is Leshawna who is Gwen's best friend). Gwen returned as a contestant in Total Drama All-Stars. Gwen was placed on the villainous team, called the Villainous Vultures, but this was a controversial move because although she is not a villain, she was purposely placed ...Total Drama Island: Reboot: Created by Tom McGillis, Jennifer Pertsch. With Terry McGurrin, Deven Christian Mack, Eman Ayaz, Julie Sype. The most funny and dangerous reality cartoon show Total Drama is back with even more dangerous challenges.Duncan is a character in the Total Drama series. He was eligible for all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. In Island, Duncan managed to be chosen to compete in Total Drama, which enabled him to be temporarily freed from jail. His experiences in jail combines with his tough guy personality would make him a feared yet respected camper. In TDI03 he is forced to stay awake for many ...Amy was a contestant on Total Drama: Pahkitew Island as a member of the Pimâpotew Kinosewak. Amy is aggressive, cruel, snarky, impatient and will take advantage of anyone if she finds the opportunity. She believes that she is both the "beauty and the brains" between her and her twin and views Samey as a "spare Amy", "lesser Amy" or even a "second Amy," and thus the inferior sibling. She also ...Total Drama is a Canadian animated comedy television series that began …This is the fifth entry on my series of Total Drama bios. The next character I'll be writing on is Emma, ... Born: b. 2003 (age 20) Birthplace and Residence: Winnipeg, MT, Canada Former Residence: Kingston, ON, Canada Emma was born in 2003 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Both of her parents were world-class archers who met at the 1996 Olympics in ...Create a ranking for All Total Drama Characters (2007-2023) 1. Edit the label text in each row. 2. Drag the images into the order you would like. 3. Click 'Save/Download' and add a title and description. 4. Share your Tier List.Heather is a major antagonist in the Canadian animated Total Drama franchise. She is a Canadian girl who joins Total Drama upon its first season's premiere, bent on winning the million dollars prize like every contestant. To do so, Heather takes advantage of several contestants to make it to the finale through manipulations and tricks, but her spiteful and ruthless behavior eventually costs ...Harold McGrady is a supporting character in the Total Drama franchise. He is an awkward, geeky character who often gets bullied by his archenemy Duncan. because he is a hapless know-it-all when he kept on nagging. He is also patterned after no one in appearance and personality. He has a crush on Leshawna .Gwen, labeled The Loner, was a camper, and one of the finalists of Total Drama Island as a member of the Screaming Gophers. She returned as a cast member on Total Drama Action and was the captain of the Screaming Gaffers. She also returned for Total Drama World Tour and was a member of Team Amazon. She was seen with the original contestants …Born: b. 2004 (age 19) Birthplace: Bangkok, Thailand Residence: Kingston, ON, Canada Occupation: Currently works under an apprenticeship ... In summer 2022, Both Chase and Emma were among the 16 competitors that competed on Total Drama's new season. On the show, Chase did everything to get Emma back despite Emma's strong objections. Both also ...This animated take on the reality genre sees twenty-two teens competing in physical challenges in a dilapidated summer camp setting over a sixty day period. Season Two sees the name of the show change to Total Drama Action with fourteen teens competing in movie related challenges on a run down movie studio lot. In the third season, which has been titled Total Drama, the Musical, fifteen ...Dawn was a camper on Total Drama: Revenge of the Island as a member of the Toxic Rats. Dawn is a mysterious nature lover who wants to use the prize money to help Mother Earth. She is able to communicate with all kinds of animals, mutated or not, who take a strong liking to her. She is frequently seen meditating and reads her tea leaves …Priya was a camper on Total Drama Island (2023) as a member of the Ferocious Trout and was the winner of the season. She returned for Total Drama Island (2024) as the team captain of Team Rat Face. Having been raised by her parents to be a champion since her youth, Priya is amongst the most athletic and determined players on the island. Since her parents were huge fans of the show, Priya is ...r/Totaldrama. • 4 yr. ago. Overmars47. My opinion: characters'age during each season. Discussion. TD Island and Action time : Gen1 : 16. Gen2 : 14. Gen 3 : 12. TD World Tour …The Total Drama series is a popular animated reality television parody series that puts a humorous spin on the reality show genre. The premise revolves around a group of diverse teenagers who are fighting for a chance to win the prize money. They are brought to a remote location to compete in challenges and do everything in their power to avoid ...Rudolph "Lightning" Jackson was a camper and one of the finalists of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island as a member of the Toxic Rats. He later returned as a camper for Total Drama All-Stars as a member of the Villainous Vultures. Lightning is an ultra-competitive jock who values winning above everything else. He is very vain and egotistical, constantly referring to himself in the third person ...This article focuses on the interactions between Cody and Noah. In the third episode of TDI, during the Awake-A-Thon, Noah is seen kissing Cody on the ear, thus prompting teasing throughout the rest of the show, particularly from Izzy at the Playa De Losers. In this season, even though the two remain friends, Cody is seen several times throughout the show voting for Noah (much to the bookworm ...Owen is a character in the Total Drama series. He is featured as a competitor in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. Owen's strategy is actually nonexistant. His natural personality comes across as being friendly, thus as a result he does not make enemies. It was this tactic that got him far in all three seasons, and becoming the winner of Island. …Beth was a camper in Total Drama Island as a member of the Screaming Gophers. She later returned as a castmate in Total Drama Action on the Killer Grips and was one of the finalists that season. Despite this, she did not return for Total Drama World Tour and was instead an aftermath commentator. She was seen with the original cast on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of the ...Bowie, labeled The Loveable Party Boy, is a supporting antagonist in the Total Drama franchise, serving as one of the two main antagonists (alongside Julia) of Total Drama Island 2023 and a supporting character in Total Drama Island 2024. He is a flamboyant homosexual stereotypical boy who joins Total Drama as the reality show's first openly gay contestant, bent on winning the million dollars ...Cameron Corduroy Wilkins was a camper and one of the finalists of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island as a member of the Mutant Maggots. He returned as a camper for Total Drama All-Stars originally as a member of the Heroic Hamsters but was switched to the Villainous Vultures. Cameron is an exceptionally smart boy, but is also one of the physically weakest competitors, due to his overprotective ...Owen is a character in the Total Drama series. He is featured as a competitor in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. Owen's strategy is actually nonexistant. His natural personality comes across as being friendly, thus as a result he does not make enemies. It was this tactic that got him far in all three seasons, and becoming the winner of Island. Until he recieved his first ...Cody, full name Cody Emmett Jameson Anderson was a camper on Total Drama Island as a member of the Screaming Gophers. He later returned as a castmate on Total Drama Action as a member of the Killer Grips and was one of the finalists in Total Drama World Tour as the near sole veteran and representative member of Team Victory. Cody is usually the kind of guy who people would either look up to or ...Total DramaRama (formerly titled Total Drama Daycare) is the second spin-off of the Total Drama franchise. "Total DramaRama re-introduces favorite cast members like loveable Owen and uptight Courtney but ages them down from teenagers to toddlers. While the cast may be pint-sized, their teen personalities are fully-formed with the voices we know and love and each episode is packed with dream ...Geoffrey "Geoff" was a camper in Total Drama Island as a member of the Killer Bass. He later returned as a castmate in Total Drama Action, but was not placed on a team due to his early elimination, and did not qualify for Total Drama World Tour. He was a co-host on the Total Drama Aftermath. He was seen with the original contestants on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of ...Axel was a camper on Total Drama Island (2023) as a member of the Ferocious Trout. She returned for Total Drama Island (2024) as a member of Team Rat Face. Axel has a strong belief that the zombie apocalypse is coming and has trained herself to be prepared for when it eventually arrives. She possesses strong leadership qualities and is not hesitant to make sacrifices in instances of mutiny ...Amy was a contestant on Total Drama: Pahkitew Island as a member of the Pimâpotew Kinosewak. Amy is aggressive, cruel, snarky, impatient and will take advantage of anyone if she finds the opportunity. She believes that she is both the "beauty and the brains" between her and her twin and views Samey as a "spare Amy", "lesser Amy" or even a "second Amy," and thus the inferior sibling. She also ...While sleeping, Mike's personalities shift of their own accord, without the use of triggers. Interestingly, it’s only until each personality's debut that Mike shifts into them in his sleep on-screen. During an interview, Mike's voice actor Cory Doran admits that Vito is his favorite alternate personality.In today’s digital age, protecting your devices and personal information from cyber threats is more important than ever. McAfee Total Protection is a comprehensive security solutio...A subreddit to talk about the Canadian cartoon franchise, Total Drama, its spin offs (DramaRama & the Ridonculous Race) as well as any related works such as Disventure Camp. ... Born: March 27, 1967 (age 57), Odessa, Texas Kelly is of Greek descent. Her grandparents moved from Smyrna (now Izmir) to Michigan in 1922. When Kelly's father ...Priya is a contestant as well as the main protagonist of the 2023 reboot of the Canadian reality show, Total Drama Island, and the deuteragonist of Total Drama Island: the Return.She appears as the member of Ferocious Trout in the first season, and the captain of Team Rat Face in the second season. Her parents are really big Total Drama fans to the point that they trained her for sixteen years ...Harold is a character in the Total Drama series. He competes in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. In Island, Harold displays many different skills and attributes, much to the surprise of the others. He is also responsible for his team winning in TDI04 as well as TDI05, though he fumbles in TDI08. In TDI12, he secretly switches the votes during his …• 3 yr. ago. SlayerDaJuggalo. TD Character Ages. Discussion. So when it comes to the ages of the characters in Total Drama, it's been confirmed that starting in Island, all the characters were 16 years old, which made sense for all of the contestants who definitely acted like teenagers.Owen is one of the main characters in the Total Drama franchise.. In Total Drama Island, he was a member of the Screaming Gophers, the Killer Grips in Total Drama Action, and Team Chris Is Really Really Really Really Hot in Total Drama World Tour.He only makes minor appearances in Total Drama: Revenge of the Island and Total Drama All-Stars.However, later in the spin-off series, he teams up ...Brick McArthur was a camper on Total Drama: Revenge of the Island, and was originally a member of the Mutant Maggots, but switched to the Toxic Rats. Brick is an army kid who enforces the "never leave a cadet behind" code as if his life depends on it. He respects his superiors to the fullest, saluting them and even complimenting Chef's disgusting meals, something only Owen has done prior to ...ok, everybody is being really dramatic. this show is perfectly fine for kids starting at 8-10. it really depends on the kid. positive messages/role models- the whole show is full of enemies and talking about people and alliances behind peoples back. but that's the whole point of the show. in the end people usually work together and it's all ...Josee was a Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race contestant and one of the main antagonists as a member of The Ice Dancers with Jacques. Josee is a Canadian figure skater whose dream was to win gold at the Olympics. When she finally got the chance, she was dropped by her partner Jacques face-first on the ice and the two became national embarrassments. They are conniving performers who ...Teenagers are a unique demographic with ever-changing tastes and preferences. When it comes to storytelling, there is no shortage of captivating genres that resonate with this age ...Christian "Chris" McLean is, as in the previous seasons, is main antagonist this season's host. Imprisoned once again for misdeeds against humanity and the environment, legendary television host Chris McLean is bailed out by the network and an army of angry fans in a desperate attempt to revive Total Drama and green-light a new season. Chris eagerly signs on and makes the decision to uproot ...Gwen is a character in the Total Drama series. She competes in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. She is often described as a loner, an introvert, and often emotional. She acts more and more friendly and open as the series progresses. In Island, despite her at-first grumpy behavior and overall dislikability (only outranked by Heather), she manages to make it into the Final Two ...Age rating. PG. Production country . Canada. TV . Total Drama Island (2007) 6 Seasons . Season 6 . Season 5 . Season 4 . Season 3 . Season 2 . Season 1 . Watch Now . Filters. Best Price . Free . SD . HD . 4K . ... Total Drama Island focuses on twenty-two teenagers' arrival at Camp Wawanakwa to compete on a reality television show. The ...Rudolph "Lightning" Jackson was a camper and one of the finalists of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island as a member of the Toxic Rats. He later returned as a camper for Total Drama All-Stars as a member of the Villainous Vultures. Lightning is an ultra-competitive jock who values winning above everything else. He is very vain and egotistical, constantly referring to himself in the third person ...Sadie was a camper on Total Drama Island, as a member of the Killer Bass. She did not compete either on Total Drama Action or Total Drama World Tour, but appears during the Total Drama Aftermaths as a commentator. She was seen with the original contestants on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island. Sadie is most notable …ok, everybody is being really dramatic. this show is perfectly fine for kids starting at 8-10. it really depends on the kid. positive messages/role models- the whole show is full of enemies and talking about people and alliances behind peoples back. but that's the whole point of the show. in the end people usually work together and it's all ...If I get on the show, my worst nightmare would be to get voted out by a jock. But what are the chances of that?Zoey's audition for Total Drama.Zoey is one of the main characters of the Total Drama franchise. She was a camper in Total Drama: Revenge of the Island, and a member of the Mutant Maggots. She also returned as a finalist (alongside Mike) in Total Drama All-Stars, as well as a member ...You messed with the wrong sister!Leshawna to Heather in X-treme Torture. Ooh, that's it! I've had about enough of that girl!Leshawna when hearing of Heather's annoyance.Leshawna is a major character in the Total Drama franchise. She was a camper on Total Drama Island, where she was a member of the Screaming Gophers. She was a cast member on Total Drama Action, and was placed on the Screaming ...Taylor was a Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race contestant as a member of The Mom & Daughter with Kelly. Coming from a wealthy family, Taylor was pampered at a young age by parents who showered her with everything money could buy. As a result, she is used to getting whatever she wants. Because of this, Taylor has become an ungrateful and rude daughter who often disrespects her mother ...Amy was a contestant on Total Drama: Pahkitew Island as a member of the Pimâpotew Kinosewak. Amy is aggressive, cruel, snarky, impatient and will take advantage of anyone if she finds the opportunity. She believes that she is both the "beauty and the brains" between her and her twin and views Samey as a "spare Amy", "lesser Amy" or even a "second Amy," and thus the inferior sibling. She also ...Bowie is the first Total Drama openly LGBTQ+ contestant. Bowie has been shown to sometimes sleep in the girl's side of the cabin. Bowie mentions he was the prom king …February 12, 1982 (age 42) British Columbia, Canada. Occupation. Actor. Years active. 2001-present. Carter Hayden (born February 12, 1982) is a Canadian voice, film and television actor. He is most well-known for his role as Noah in the animated franchise Total Drama .Age: 16 (Island-Action) 17 (World Tour) 18 (Revenge of the Island) 19 (All-Stars) Species: Human Portrayed by: Rachel Wilson Status: Alive ... Throughout Total Drama Action and Total Drama World Tour, Heather has a character is able redeem herself from being a villain to being an anti-hero. Not to mention that she gets some great character ...Mildred "Blaineley" Stacey Andrews O'Halloran is a television host, formerly of Celebrity Manhunt, and a co-host for Total Drama World Tour Aftermath. She was one of the three newcomers who debuted in Total Drama World Tour due to accidentally winning the second-chance challenge in Aftermath Aftermayhem, and became a contestant on the season after debuting in Niagara Brawls. She also makes ...15 Share. Add a Comment. Sort by: Bongo9911. •. The ages were confirmed by Christine Thompson (who did PR for Fresh TV at the time) to be: Owen & Noah are both 19. Geoff …Eva was a camper on Total Drama Island as a member of the Killer Bass. She did not compete on Total Drama Action or Total Drama World Tour, but appears as a commentator in the Total Drama Aftermath. She was seen with the original contestants on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island. Although Eva is very competitive …Tyler from the anime Total Drama Island. Tyler is the sixteen year old so-called jock from Total Drama Island. ... Age. 16 years old: 16 years old: Hair. Brown: Brown: Eyes. Brown: Brown: Height. 5'9" 175 cm: Weight. 135 lbs: 61.2 kg: Blood. Type A: Type A: Status. Camper: Camper: Quote. You're going down, we're bringing dinner to the table and ...Priya is the first female Total Drama contestant of Indian descent (with Raj being the first male contestant of such descent). She is the first winner who is definitely, canonically the winner of her season, as no alternate ending for a possible Bowie win was ever created. Priya has caused the second-highest elimination in Total Drama Island ...A subreddit to talk about the Canadian cartoon franchise, Total Drama, its spin offs (DramaRama & the Ridonculous Race) as well as any related works such as Disventure Camp. Remember that posts related to the 2023 reboot and/or Disventure seasons must be spoiler tagged.Beverly "B" was a camper on Total Drama: Revenge of the Island, as a member of the Toxic Rats. Due to the fact that he has never spoken, lack of background information, and his relatively short time on the show, very little is actually known about B. One thing that can be deduced is that his intelligence level is through the roof, leading to the production of many impressive creations ...Parents say ( 7 ): Kids say ( 36 ): Total Drama Revenge of the Island takes good-natured jabs at reality competitions in general and the long-running father of them all, Survivor, in particular. Viewers familiar with Survivor 's format will get the most out of this very funny parody, from the cheery host who revels in the contestants ...A subreddit to talk about the Canadian cartoon franchise, Total Drama, its spin offs (DramaRama & the Ridonculous Race) as well as any related works such as Disventure Camp. ... Born: August 28, 1993 (age 29), Weyburn, Saskatchewan Sugar is from rural Saskatchewan. Sugar started competing in beauty pageants when she was six, using as the only ...A subreddit to talk about the Canadian cartoon franchise, Total Drama, its spin offs (DramaRama & the Ridonculous Race) as well as any related works such as Disventure Camp. Remember that posts related to the 2023 reboot and/or Disventure seasons must be spoiler tagged.Trenton "Trent" was a camper from Total Drama Island as a member of the Screaming Gophers. He was a cast member on Total Drama Action and was the captain of the Killer Grips. He did not compete on Total Drama World Tour but appeared in the Total Drama World Tour Aftermath. He was seen with the original contestants on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island. Trent is ...Justin was a contestant on Total Drama Island, Action, World Tour and All Stars. He was a member of the Screaming Gophers in Island, before being switched to the Killer Bass, a member of the Screaming Gaffers in Action, was a member of the Drama Brothers in World Tour, before being swapped to Team Victory and was a member of the Hapless ...Lindsay, the scatterbrained blonde, the girl with amnesia over Tyler’s name, the contestant who stood up to Heather head on, the only contestant to have voted themselves off the show…twice, and the admiral. With that out of the way, here is the profile. Full Name: Lindsay Marie Frederick. Born: September 20, 1991 (age 31), Winnipeg, Manitoba.Valentina "MacArthur" Escobar was a Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race contestant and finalist as a member of The Police Cadets with Sanders. Competitive and brash by nature, MacArthur plays the "bad cop" of the simplistic duo. She is not above abusing her power by breaking a few rules in order to win. She is known for being an aggressive person, as well as being a control freak; when ...Collaborative wiki focusing on Total Drama, five seasons of a Canadian animated television series which lampoon the conventions commonly found in reality shows. Currently over …Sex & Nudity. In one episode in Season 1, Cody askes Gwen For her bra, which he later receives for doing her a favor. When Cody shows it to Owen, they laugh, and Cody makes a joke about a gentlemen never kisses and tells. In the special Episode, LeShawna Gives up her bra as a slingshot.This article focuses on the interactions between Chris and Topher. Topher initially shows great respect for Chris, complimenting him on his hosting skills and the challenges he puts the contestants through. Chris, at first, is excited to meet someone who appreciates his work and takes his suggestions on how to make the challenges even more dangerous. However, he quickly grows annoyed by this ...Gwen is a character in the Total Drama series. She competes in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. She is often described as a loner, an introvert, and often emotional. She acts more and more friendly and open as the series progresses. In Island, despite her at-first grumpy behavior and overall dislikability (only outranked by Heather), she manages to make it into the Final Two ...By the time of RR their ages would. Original cast - 18~19 (depending on their birthday) RotI cast - 17~18 (depending on their birthday) PI cast - 16~17 (depending on their birthday) And for the RR cast their ages were confirmed and you can look for them. Leshawna also doesn't really seem like 16 years old.Julia was a camper and one of the two main antagonists of Total Drama Island (2023) as a member of the Frogs of Death. She returned as the sole main antagonist of Total Drama Island (2024) as a member of Team Skunk Butt and was one of the two runner-ups of the season. At first glance, Julia is a serene, friendly and charming modern social media influencer. She exhibits excellent composure even ...Zoey is a fictional character and one of the heroes from the Total Drama franchise - serving as the deuteragonist in Revenge of the Island and becoming the co-protagonist in All-Stars. Zoey, labelled The Indie Chick, is one of the main protagonists of Seasons 4-5a of Total Drama. She was a camper and the deuteragonist in Total Drama: Revenge Of The Island and a member of the Mutant Maggots ...Josee is a major antagonist of the Canadian animated franchise Total Drama, and one of the two main antagonists with her partner, Jacques as The Ice Dancers of Total Drama Presents: The Ridonculous Race. She was voiced by Julie Lemieux, who also voiced Kelly in the same series. Josee is a crafty, conniving, manipulative and duplicitous competitor who is obsessed with gold medals and coming in ...A subreddit to talk about the Canadian cartoon franchise, Total Drama, its spin offs (DramaRama & the Ridonculous Race) as well as any related works such as Disventure Camp. ... In PI he says he is 30, but this age doesn't match any of the previous one, as in RR Leonard is still 16, and the Island characters are 19, so 3 years pass since Island ...Realism in drama occurs when a play resembles real life, such as showing political events that occurred within a country. Depending on the era, these events were relevant to societ...Overview. Total Drama All-Stars takes place on Camp Wawanakwa, the setting of Total Drama Island and Total Drama: Revenge of the Island, with fo u r t e e n p l a y e r s from the last four seasons returning to compete. This season, contestants are divided into two teams based on their status as a hero or a villain, and must avoid the Flush of Shame in order to take home the $1,000,000 grand ...Harold Norbert Cheever Doris McGrady V was a camper on Total Drama Island as a member of the Killer Bass. He was also a cast member on Total Drama Action as a member of the Screaming Gaffers. He later competed on Total Drama World Tour as a member of Team Victory. He was seen with the original contestants on a yacht in the first episode of Total Drama: Revenge of the Island. A skinny, awkward ...Leshawna is a major character in the Total Drama franchise.. She was a camper on Total Drama Island, where she was a member of the Screaming Gophers.She was a cast member on Total Drama Action, and was placed on the Screaming Gaffers team.She was also a contestant on Total Drama World Tour as a member of Team Victory. She was …. Leshawna is a major character in the Total If I get on the show, my worst nightmare would be to get In today’s digital age, ensuring the security of your devices is of utmost importance. With the increasing number of online threats, it has become crucial to have a reliable antivi...Total Drama Island - Episode 8 - Up the Creek. 09. Total Drama Island - Episode 9 - Paintball Deer Hunter. 10. Total Drama Island - Episode 10 - If You Can't Take The Heat. 11. Total Drama Island - Episode 11 - Who Can You Trust. 12. Total Drama Island - Episode 12 - Basic Straining. Topher, labeled The Manwhore, was a contestant on Total Drama Owen is a character in the Total Drama series. He is featured as a competitor in all three seasons: Island, Action, and World Tour. Owen's strategy is actually nonexistant. His natural personality comes across as being friendly, thus as a result he does not make enemies. It was this tactic that got him far in all three seasons, and becoming the winner of Island. Until he recieved his first ... Heartwarming moments are interspersed with backstabbing, scheming, sa...
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